Re: 4.12

On 4/13/19 5:30 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On 4/13/19 3:46 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Would you guys please consider going back to Xfce 4.12
>> in Fedora 30?  Xfce 4.13 is just too buggy to let loose
>> on my customers!
>>
>> Me?  I work around them and have reported a ton of them.
>> But way too many problems for a non-technical customer.
>
> huh. So, I see 62 bugs in f29/f30/f31 in the 4.13 components with '4.13
> in them somewhere. Of those, 51 are abrt reports. It's usually pretty
> difficult to track down abrt reports unless there's a clear reproducer.
> Of the other 10, some are anoying, but nothing leaps out as a show
> stopper to me at least. It's way too late in the f30 cycle to change
> things back to 4.12.
>
> Perhaps you could list the most important bugs you hit and we can see if
> we can get some traction to fix them?

Hi Kevin,

This one is TOTALLY O-B-N-O-X-I-O-U-S!
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12516

These two will drive a non-technical user our of his mind:
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14923
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14854

Here is a bunch of the rest:

https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15238
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15172
https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=50418
https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=50340
https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=50266
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863
https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=50188
https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=50185
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14842
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14830
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14829
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14828
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14827
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14217

And it does not seem like they are getting worked
on either. But, I presume that they are fixing them
in 4.14 as that is a better use of their scarce resources.

>
>> I have just been installing Fedora 28, which is near end
>> of life or just jumping to Mate.  And I really do
>> adore Xfce.
>>
>> Guess there is no change of Xfce 4.14 in Fedora 30?
>
> Nope. Thats up to when upstream releases it. Even if they released
> today, final freeze for f30 is next tuesday.

Oh crap. I hope they get the issues with the upgrade fixed. When I
tried upgrading a f29 VM to 30 last week it slaughtered grub.

-T

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