Tuesday, September 13, 2016

Re: IRC SIG needs external oversight

This is going to be a productive conversation if we focus on the
*actions* being disputed here and not any *people.*

Nobody is saying such-and-such a person is "scum" or anything like that;
we are questioning the *actions* that were taken (which a number of
folks have attributed to potential burn-out and not ill-intent. It has
been acknowledged multiple times having op is a challenge and oftentimes
thankless task.)

If anybody involved stands by actions they took that are being contested
- completely fine. It is very understandable to take it personally as we
are all passionate about what we do, but please do not take the
discussion personally. We cannot solve the very real problems under
discussion here if things get personal, because that will lead to
unnecessary and unproductive escalation.

So my suggestion is please let's drop this part of the thread and move
on. Ben, if you have additional data about the situation to provide,
please do so, but let's not take this conversation where it's not going
to be productive to go.

~m

On 09/13/2016 12:06 PM, Ben Williams wrote:
> Since all of this stink to high heaven of a witch hunt because i banned
> one person for bouncing for days on end and even tried to contact them.
> and when i didnt hear from them and they kept bouncing i banned to get
> their attention to the situation.
>
>
> now i love how the Friendship Foundation is applied to only certain
> people. and anyone outside of that group no matter how long they have
> been an contributor to the project is scum. (This is my feeling on stuff
> that has been posted and not a single person has even come to me to ask
> my side of the situation)
>
> Friendship is a 2 way street.
>
> Ben Williams Southern_Gentlem KKEWT jbwillia
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