Re: Can we measure Fedora users by language?

10.09.2018 13:27 Jean-Baptiste Holcroft <jean-baptiste@holcroft.fr> wrote:
> [...]
> I'm really sorry, but I don't think I understand this discussion.
>
> What problem are we trying to solve?

This discussion took place one month ago and I'm not sure I still remember
all the details.

Shortly, it is not about allowing a translation to be present in Fedora
(actually, there is no such mechanism and we just accept whatever upstream
provides) but about a language to be listed in system-config-languages.
Adding a language has its consequences: switching a language should install
its langpacks. The langpacks consist of whole RPMs supporting single languages
like spelling dictionaries or a complete (or almost complete) translation
of LibreOffice. Should we say to a volunteer willing to add a new language
"we will add your language but first you must provide a complete spelling
dictionary or you must completely translate LibreOffice and it must be
accepted upstream"? Oh, we found a solution: glibc-langpack is created for
every language. But on the other hand, should we give the users a choice of
a language even if choosing the language does nothing in their system except
switching the default LANG environment variable?

> Rafal said:
> > It has about 5000-7000 native speakers, most of them
> > are older people and all of them speak fluently German. How likely is
> > it that anybody will ever use Fedora in Lower Sorbian?
>
> And used Filipino as an example:
> https://pagure.io/system-config-language/issue/3

These are two different examples. Indeed, AFAIR the discussion started
from Filipino language which does not have any langpacks except glibc-langpack
and the translations are very incomplete. Then I used Lower Sorbian as an
example of a language which was added to glibc and now I wonder if any actual
native speaker will ever actually use it. In Fedora or in any other Linux.

> OK, this is slow, takes time and result is uncertain, but what issue
> does it provoke to have one or two packages including translation Lower
> Sorbian or Filipino?

I think it's more about langpacks than translations.

Maybe we should redirect the question to other participant?

Regards,

Rafal
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