Re: We're planning to move Council discussions

On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 04:32:20PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> Hi all. At today's Fedora Council "virtual face-to-face" meeting, we
> decided that it's time to move our discussion from this mailing list
> and IRC to more modern platforms: namely, Discourse via
> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ and Matrix via ... something yet
> to be determined, but probably initially a channel on element.io and
> then eventually our own server.
>
> Some Fedora Teams, like the Magazine, have already moved from the
> mailing list, and noted a significant increase in visiblity and
> participation. The fact is, even those of us who proudly self-identify
> as "old school" are reluctant to sign up for yet-another-mailing-list
> these days. It's a serious barrier to project entry.
>
> And IRC ... it's served us well, but... it's also not kept up, and it's
> *long* been a problem we've seen in attracting new contributors. More
> and more new projects turn to Slack or Discord for their real-time
> discussions. I'd like us to move to something open source while such
> things are viable, and hopefully by doing so help them stay
> competitive. Since we don't have a Matrix server up and running, this
> is a little further off, but I wanted to mention it here.
>
> In any case, we plan to:
>
> * Bridge IRC and Matrix, so that you can stay on IRC and interact if
> that's your preference. Freenode isn't going away anytime soon!
>
> * Plan to port zodbot to be a Matrix-native bot, so we can have logged
> meetings, cookies-with-badges, adamw "firing" people, etc.
>
> * Retire this list for new posts (tentatively, starting December 1st),
> and instead direct conversation to
> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/project/council-discuss/60
>
> * Set up a bot to automatically post summaries of discussion from that
> category to this list, so that long-term subscribers aren't left out
>
> Note that unlike a "BB"-style web forum, you can interact with
> discussion.fedoraproject.org via email, including getting individual
> new posts and responding in your mail client. It isn't quite a
> first-class experience, though -- there are many features which are web
> only.
>
> Any questions about any of this? Anything I haven't thought of?

At the risk of digging up more alternatives, has any consideration
been given to zulip instead of matrix? ( https://github.com/zulip )
They are open source, have been around longer than matrix, are more
active than matrix and provide free hosting for open source projects
(so we would not need to run a server if we didn't want to)
( https://zulip.com/for/open-source/ )

They also have a number of improvements over matrix/irc like topics in
channels.

Of course it could also be linked to irc/matrix so we could let folks
choose, but I'm not sure how the threading works for that case.

kevin