Thursday, December 14, 2023

[fedora-arm] Re: State of the mibility SIG, dec 2023

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 08:47:10AM +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
> Thanks for the update. Comments inline.
> Firstly I'd like to apologise for my lack of public participation in
> the SIG, the last year or two has proven quite problematic for me
> personally, I've had a lot of "higher priorities" which has reduced my
> available hacking time, and that seems to quickly get gobbled up with
> things like RPi regressions and release blocker bugs. Throw in a whole
> bunch of mental health issues and something had to give.

yeah, I hear ya. This last few years have been difficult here too. ;(

> That being said, in the last few weeks I have been actually back to
> some hacking projects... more on that below.

> So I have been booting the original Pinephone on Fedora 39, display
> works so I'd be interested in the issues you're seeing there. I'm
> booting the original PP because of the Wireless, I've been looking at
> some of the realtek modules for another project but hoping the side
> effect is actually the rtl8723 series devices should be upstream
> soon(ish). This should also resolve the issue on the original PineTab
> although I don't remember who has that as I don't (the people that do
> please reach out if you want to help testing).

I've not looked too much at the pp recently... it's just so... slow.
I suppose if wifi and display works it could be of some use now.

> The PPP is also on my list to look at again soon, initially it'll be
> around U-Boot due to the F-39 blocker issues as I'm working to resolve
> that upstream for once so I'll be testing that on my PPP, I thought we
> had the wireless and screen there, I do need to circle back more to
> this one though TBH.

We did have screen at one point. wifi we had also at one point if you
copied a blob over that wasn't in linux-firmware. But I don't think
either are currently working. :(

> > Until the advent of some performant mobile device to target or more
> > contributors who wish to drive things forward, I think we should just
> > mark the Mobility sig inactive at this point, including:
> I think marking the SIG as inactive probably makes sense.
> > Retire the Phosh spin in f40
> What's currently produced here?

We have a Phosh aarch64 raw image. But... without much if any hardware
it actually boots on.

> > Hopefully find new maintainers for the phosh stack if there's folks that want to keep them alive.
> How much work is this? How many packages?

tor posted about them here:
This is the phosh stack and a few other things.

> > Mark the sig inactive on wiki and matrix.
> Just as I actually get the energy to setup matrix :-P although I am
> yet to find the SIG there

Should be room

> > respins will move to against a stable fedora release once a week or so, instead of against rawhide and more often.
> What's in the respins? Is that basically Fedora and custom kernel?

Yep. Fedora userspace/packages, but heavily patched kernel with all the
stuff to make pp/ppp work.


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