Glad to see Abiword will be kept. I still use Abiword and Gnumeric regularly because I can depend on these programs to just work. Sure they have some not show stopping issues/bugs which will likely never be resolved but they are lighting fast. And none of my time is wasted on changes which I may or may not like which keeps me focused on my work instead the text editor and spreadsheet. If I need a "missing" feature, I use Libre or Google.
On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 3:46 AM fetch via xfce <xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Hi all,
I think most of the things I was hoping to get done for F42 are complete:
* The updated screenshot is now live! https://fedoraproject.org/spins/xfce
* While Abiword is technically in F42, it seemed like a better idea (and
a good time) to just switch to libreoffice-writer/calc. Sorry for the
back and forth on this; it seemed a bit easier/more consistent to just
go with programs that are already maintained well in Fedora rather than
redoing all the work for Abiword's new upstream (I'm not a package
maintainer anyway). The switch for F42+ was done here:
https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/pull-request/1086#
* * I've also updated the https://fedoraproject.org/spins/xfce page with
the libreoffice changes and some minor edits to improve consistency
between the spins, but those wont go live until F42 is released:
https://gitlab.com/fedora/websites-apps/fedora-websites/cms/fedoraproject.org/-/merge_requests/96
* Wiki additions are done
* * I've added a section for testing Wayland here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Xfce#Testing_Wayland.
* * The details about the LiveCD and its creation have also been
updated: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Xfce/XfceLive
Thanks everyone for your help! Looking forward to F42 :)
Sean
FAS:seaninspace
On 2/7/25 2:13 PM, fetch@posteo.nl wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Small update:
>
> * I've submitted the new screenshot to the CMS, needs to be
> approved/published I suppose:
> https://fedora.gitlab.io/websites-apps/fedora-websites/cms/fedoraproject.org/admin/#/workflow
>
> * RE the writer; turns out abiword is in F42 and is still being
> maintained here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/AbiWord. I've
> submitted a request to have it re-added to the xfce-office group here:
> https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/pull-request/1081#
>
> * I'll work on more wiki additions, but anyone else is more than
> welcomed to as well :) Here are two additions I think we can add:
> * * How to test Wayland (from starting with a fresh install onward):
> https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap#testing
>
> * * Details on how the Live CD is created with Kiwi. I haven't figured
> out exactly how that is all done, but this seems like a good spot to
> start https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/KiwiBuiltCloudImages
>
> Thanks to Kevin for the help, and for your suggestion Benyamin! I had
> no idea the whisker menu developer had made something like that! I'm
> not trying to be biased towards Abiword (though I personally like the
> speed/simplicity of abiword), it just seems like the path of least
> resistance to get back a writer, so I'm happy to support whatever
> people feel like is best!
>
> Thanks for all your help and thoughts!
>
> Sean
>
> FAS:seaninspace
>
> On 2/7/25 1:33 PM, Benyamin Limanto via xfce wrote:
>>
>> Or probably focus writer from the developer of whisker menu of xfce?
>>
>> I think now days office is big tbh..
>>
>> As gnome doesn't have office, and xfce does not build one. 😂
>>
>> I do agree Libreoffice is too big in an ISO for xfce. 😂
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Benyamin Limanto
>> sent from my 红米十二 Pro
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2025, 19:27 Benyamin Limanto <blbenyamin9@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all.
>>
>> Just curious to ask, will you all consider move using markdown
>> editor like Marker instead of abiword format documents?
>>
>> Or it's not good migration path for xfce spins?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Benyamin Limanto
>> sent from my 红米十二 Pro
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2025, 01:51 Kevin Fenzi via xfce
>> <xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 01:56:17PM +0000, fetch via xfce wrote:
>> > Hi all!
>>
>> hello!
>>
>> > XFCE 4.20 is in Fedora 42, woo! I was thinking this would
>> be a good time to
>> > do some TLC on the website/docs.
>>
>> Awesome. Thanks for taking that on.
>>
>> > For instance:
>> >
>> > * Update the spins (https://fedoraproject.org/spins/xfce)
>> page with a more
>> > recent screenshot and update the list of installed applications
>>
>> This can be done via
>> https://gitlab.com/fedora/websites-apps/fedora-websites/fedora-websites-3.0/
>> ask in #websites:fedoraproject.org <http://fedoraproject.org>
>> for help.
>> >
>> > * * Abiword is no longer included, for example. Should we
>> switch that and
>> > Gnumeric to LibreOffice? I personally quite like Gnumeric,
>> so maybe find an
>> > alternate writer?
>>
>> Yeah, we have resisted including libreoffice due to it's
>> large size, but
>> we could just do that. :(
>>
>> > * * I've made a screenshot from Fedora 42 Rawhide
>> 20250204.n.0 in the same
>> > spirit as the current example:
>> >
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Screenshot_2025-02-06_14-18-50.png'.
>> I
>> > can add that if someone wouldn't mind reminding me how to
>> update the
>> > spins.fedoraproject.org <http://spins.fedoraproject.org>
>> page (:
>>
>> See above. ;)
>>
>> > * I've also edited https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Xfce
>> (only for English,
>> > sorry :/). If you happen to glance over it let me know if
>> I've missed
>> > anything!
>>
>> Might replace the yum calls to dnf?
>> and add a bit about testing on wayland in 4.20?
>>
>> > * I think updating the Live CD page
>> > (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Xfce/XfceLive) might
>> be a good idea as
>> > I heard other spins are moving to kiwi for their image
>> generation; might be
>> > handy to include the new stuff (:
>>
>> Yeah, Xfce has actually already moved to kiwi also. ;)
>>
>> kevin
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