On 10/22/25 8:18 AM, Mike Williams via xfce wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 3:56 AM ToddAndMargo via xfce
> <xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:xfce@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All.
> >
> > Fedora 43
> >
> > This does not seems to find the Xfce4's group any more:
> > # dnf group list | grep -i xfce
> >
> > It use to show "Xfce Desktop".
> >
> > What is the proper command?
> >
> > @xfce-desktop-environment does exist. But how to show it
> > with "dnf list"?
> >
> > There are two options you should know about:
>
> --hidden and --with-optional
>
> --hidden will list hidden groups
>
> dnf group list --hidden | grep -i xfce
> Updating and loading repositories:
> Repositories loaded.
> xfce-apps Applications for the Xfce Desktop no
> xfce-desktop Xfce no
> xfce-extra-plugins Extra plugins for the Xfce panel no
> xfce-media Multimedia support for Xfce no
> xfce-office Xfce Office no
> xfce-software-development Xfce Software Development no
> critical-path-xfce Critical Path (Xfce)
>
> You may also need to add --with-optional to the group install command
> sudo dnf5 group install "xfce-desktop" --with-optional
>
> Mike
Hi Mike,
That did the trick. I wonder why it is optional?
And dnf no longer likes --with-optional with list,
only with group install/
@xfce-desktop-environment still does not show up.
Thank you!
-T
$ dnf group list --hidden --with-optional | grep -i xfce
Unknown argument "--with-optional" for command "list". Add "--help" for
more information about the arguments.
The argument is available for commands: group install. (It has to be
placed after the command.)
$ dnf group list --hidden | grep -i xfce
Updating and loading repositories:
Fedora 43 - x86_64 - Updates 100% | 53.2 KiB/s | 31.7 KiB
| 00m01s
Repositories loaded.
xfce-apps Applications for the Xfce Desktop
yes
xfce-desktop Xfce
yes
xfce-extra-plugins Extra plugins for the Xfce panel
yes
xfce-media Multimedia support for Xfce
yes
xfce-office Xfce Office
yes
xfce-software-development Xfce Software Development
no
critical-path-xfce Critical Path (Xfce)
no
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