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On 09/08/2016 03:47 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>
> On 09/03/2016 03:00 PM, Be wrote:
>> The culture on the Fedora IRC channels is hostile and unwelcoming. I
>> recently asked for technical help in #fedora and most of the responses
>> were insults. I went to #fedora-ops to report the offending user and was
>> horrified to see that the user is one of the IRC operators. So, I found
>> the link to the IRC issue tracker
>> <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/> in the #fedora channel topic
>> and reported my experience at
>> <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/192>
>
> This has been a problem for *YEARS*. I've been through the same exact
> situation multiple times, I dutifully followed their process of filing a
> grievance ticket etc. multiple times, and it ended up nowhere.
>
> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/56
>
> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/61
>
> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/62
>
> Good luck to you for trying, but honestly, it's a lost cause. On any
> Fedora projects I work on particularly websites I am sure to avoid
> listing that channel or giving it any kind of official blessing, and I
> also orient the many new contributors I help onboard by warning them to
> stay away from it.
>
> My life has been much happier and better for never going back there
> again, and it's shameful that it's continued to operate under the name
> of Fedora. I lobbied very hard to change the situation back then and got
> nowhere - there are politics here that prevent any sort of cleanup as
> far as I can tell. If I had the permissions with freenode, I'd just have
> the channel completely obliterated.
>
> I do not say *any* of this lightly.
>
> ~m
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